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Dec272009

Explosive reaction

Word is that the new, emergency security measures instituted in reaction to the Christmas Day bombing attempt are “deliberately” unpredictable (as opposed to accidentally unpredictable for the last several years?). This is bad for carry-on travelers who always bear the brunt of security measures. Some snippets from a nightmare travel weekend:

  • “Hand baggage restrictions last imposed in the wake of the liquid bomb plot in 2006 were back in place on most flights to America while security staff were ordered to conduct full body searches for every passenger at departure gates.”
  • “as aircraft entered US airspace, with passengers confined to their seats for the last hour of their flight, banned from having access to books, newspapers or even blankets or pillows.”
  • The term of the new restrictions: “indefinite”
  • In-flight maps, phones, and wi-fi - switched off
  • Carrry-on luggage limted to one and only one from the UK, zero from Paris with only a clear plastic baggie allowed!

(Source - UK Telegraph)

 

Reader Comments (6)

NO carry-on from Paris?! If such continues, I may decide to send everything via Fed Ex (or some such overnight carrier) and just stuff my pockets with whatever I can get away with. Those baggage handlers who like to "sample" products from the baggage will have a field day with such a restriction as more people will be forced to check a bag.!

Another nutter makes travel life more difficult for all!

Makes me wonder if I should "travel" vicariously through a good book with pictures and well written descriptions!

December 27, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterMaria

So now arrive 4 hours early for international flights.

The one hour remaining in your seats...is that going to make that much of a difference? We seem to be one step behind. But restrictions on passengers during the flights are not the answer. The proper screening on the ground must happen to be really safe - of both passengers AND baggage.

December 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterNo Debt World Travel

I hate the incompetent TSA and DHS and their Security Theater. The best bet at this point might just be to eliminate them and start over.

Pure overreaction, poorly thought out. Designed only to look as if they are "doing something".

I have no international trips planned for the next few months. But I sincerely hope that the passengers on those flights rebel.

December 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterSteve

No Debt, the problem is that you cannot 100% screen the passengers. You could with the bags but not the passengers unless you x-ray them or subject them to a cavity search. I hope they will not go there but, unfortunately, it seems less utopian than the propositions I wrote in the other thread to improve the US reputation.

So that's the first point. The second point is that everybody has a price. You could smuggle a bomb on board through catering, cleaning, crew, mechanics, luggage handlers, ground personnel with airfield access. All viable options and easy targets.

So even if you did a cavity search on all passengers and hand screened every single piece of luggage that goes on board, you couldn't do that to all personnel not only on a daily basis but anytime they are getting close to an aircraft.

Also, even if it was possible to protect civil aviation, which it isn't, how do you protect buildings (see the first WTC attack) or bridges or stadiums for example?

Any security measures the country puts in place are just going to make living here worse and not really help anything. They need to be proactive in improving relations with those countries and those people that don't like them. After all, it is more honorable to make amends, admit mistakes and seek friendship than to just make war abroad and try to protect the country within its borders. Sure the former is a bit harder because for some people it might be a loss of face but in the long-term it is the only thing that at least has an inkling of hope in it.

Till

December 28, 2009 | Unregistered CommenterTill
I'm visiting my parents in FL. I came from Madrid via Amsterdam, then Memphis, the cheapest flight combination I could find. Gate security was intense (pat down, all hand luggage inspected) but there was no further restriction on what hand luggage could be taken and no unusual restriction on electronic devices, etc.

Perhaps, as is wont, after the incident lots of rumors started flying. Has anyone experienced more drastic measures these days?
January 1, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterMiguel Marcos
I flew from CDG (Paris) to Dulles on Jan 1. We were allowed to take carry on bags, but it seemed like they were limiting people to one item. I got on with a small handheld bag (about 9x11x4 inches), and an umbrella. I checked my standard rolling bag, which I normally carry on, but planned on checking it in order to bring home a special bottle of champagne (no problems).

The pre-boarding security was substantially more lengthy, and seemed to delay the flight by 2 hours. Although it's possible the flight would have been delayed for some other reason, at the scheduled departure time about 90% of the passengers were in the gate area, being screened again.

The process we went through was this: the standard metal detector and x-ray setup was used before getting to the gate. After passing through the metal detector, I was selected for a pat down, even though I didn't set off the metal detector. It appeared that about every other person was being patted down (my wife wasn't patted down here, so not everyone).

When we got to the gate, every passenger was checked again at boarding, before going down the ramp to the plane. Our carry on bags were thoroughly hand searched, and everyone was patted down.

As you can imagine, this took a very long time. We checked in 3 hours early, and went to the red carpet lounge. About 80mins prior to scheduled departure, we headed for the security checkpoint. It took about 60-70mins to get through. Without the departure delay, we might have missed the flight. We were in business class, so we got to go through the second pat down ahead of others, but it looked like it might take another hour or so to get through that line.

While waiting on the plane, we could see out the window that even the ground crew and baggage handlers were being checked.

In summary though, as of Jan 1, at least one carry-on item was being allowed in Paris. Arriving 3-4 hours early is probably accurate at CDG, and head straight to security. It's hard to explain all of the details, particularly if you're not familiar with the layout of CDG, but they actually had a line set up where we waited for our turn to be allowed to get into the security line. Some of the airport staff tried to convince a fellow passenger to come back later (she had about 2 hours until her departure time). She refused, and she was right to do so.
January 3, 2010 | Unregistered CommenterHigh Roller

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